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Sunday, September 30, 2007

Israel considers downgrading its diplomatic ties with Venezuela

Israel mulls downgrading its diplomatic ties with Venezuela

From Haaretz

Israel is considering downgrading its relations with Venezuela in light of the extremist anti-Israel line taken by the country's government under President Hugo Chavez. Israel is concerned about the growing alliance between Chavez and his Iranian counterpart, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. A highly-placed source in Jerusalem says only preliminary talks have been held on the issue and no decision has been made.

To read the full article click below:


Mr Bagel: Absolutely mind boggling that you would even consider re - establishing diplomatic ties with this antisemitic dictator after his comments.


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Thursday, September 20, 2007

Olmert must go


Merryl Yourish brings up a discussion that seems to be on every ones lips.
It's a good question. Why is there not a good answer?


Make sure you read the comments.

Picture Credit:
Cox and Forkum

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Whose genocide will it be?
The real truth about who is killing who


Whose genocide will it be?

John R Thompson from Townhall.com writes an article exposing who really is behind the mass murder of millions of civilians.

Throughout most of the Muslim world, in virtually all media and with hardly a whimper of demurral, the charge is leveled and endlessly reiterated: the United States, frequently with its hated accomplice Israel, is labeled the world's modern leader in genocide. Led by George Bush, supported by his Zionist accomplices, it is charged the genocide is aimed at one segment of society: Muslims.

In madrassas and mosques, in the press and on television, with hardly an American much less Muslim voice raised to counter the calumnies, we, who consider ourselves the defenders of life and liberty, are charged, tried and convicted as the perpetrators of massive Muslim massacres from Detroit's Arab community to Darfur and to all points east. [continued]...

The real truth as to who is behind the murder of millions of civilians is shocking. If you care about the truth this is a must read article:
Whose Genocide will it be?


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Opinion Piece: Moshe Ya'alon seeing throught the haze and facing false assumptions.

False Assumptions

YNet news.com: Opinion: Moshe Ya'alon

"Unless Tony Blair, Condoleezza Rice and other emissaries shake off the conventional wisdom that settling the Israel-Palestinian conflict is a prerequisite for Middle East stability, their visits to the region will be nothing more than mere meddling"

Bagelblogger: Moshe Ya'alon sees through the haze surrounding the Palestinian Israel conflict and other conflicts. The west needs to drop its shield of Political correctness and see the truth for what it is. This opinion piece pulls no punches, yet it is exactly what the west needs to face up to.

Read the full article here: False Assumptions

Artwork by Bagelblogger

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Monday, August 27, 2007

Anger over 'blasphemous' soccer balls


Anger over 'blasphemous' balls

BBC News

A demonstration has been held in south- east Afghanistan accusing US troops of insulting Islam after they distributed footballs bearing the name of Allah.

The balls showed the Saudi Arabian flag which features the Koranic declaration of faith.

The US military said the idea had been to give something for Afghan children to enjoy and they did not realise it would cause offence.

The footballs were dropped from a helicopter in Khost province.

Some displayed flags from countries all over the world, including Saudi Arabia, which features the shahada, one of the five pillars of Islam - the declaration of faith.


Bagelblogger: The US is accused of supplying 'blasphemous balls', massive protests occur..
No one reflects that people were trying to be generous and charitable.

Islamic Fundamentalists are empowered by hate, always needing to be full of rage. Its really quite sad that the very same Fundamentalists who accuse the US soldiers of ignorance in supplying 'blasphemous soccer balls' are just as likely to be destroying five thousand year old statues from previous epochs and other religions.

If they were to judge themselves by their own measures for others they would measure up quite badly.


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Thursday, August 16, 2007

Facing the real truth:
seeing through the haze

Pictures from Video Captured of Insurgents in Iraq.

Notice the sophisticated rocketry and the civilian dress. These insurgents are able to blend in with civilians at a seconds notice. If they were to be caught in an attack, they would be paraded as 'civilian causalities', the US needs to face its real Enemy.

There's a certain paradoxical irony happening in Iraq right now.

Due to the losses the US is sustaining in Iraq, the US government, military and its citizens are in a state of absolute denial.

They desperately deny what is so blatantly obvious.

The paradox is the very reason for denying the obvious is actually being manipulated by the very country that is causing so many US causalities.


Make sure you read this very important article:
State of War

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Another 'Kerem Shalom' attack in the making?

IDF uncovers tunnel from Gaza to Israel

Jpost
An underground tunnel stretching towards Israel from the northern Gaza Strip and hidden by a Palestinian greenhouse was discovered by the IDF on Tuesday, security forces reported on Wednesday.

According to the report, Palestinian terror organizations hoped to fill the tunnel with bombs, which would then be detonated under an unspecified Israeli civilian or military target. The army is also checking into the possibility that gunmen intended to use the tunnel to infiltrate into Israel.

Bagelblogger: It never ceases to amaze me the effort Palestinian militants put in to being destructive. Sixty Years of UN assistance and funding and nothing to show except a thriving operation in home made weapons and death. This latest tunnel appears eirely similar to the situation at Kerem Shalom where Palestinian militants use a tunnel to enter into Israel and attack IDF soldiers from behind.



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It's alright because we're giving you a few more weapons.


US, Israel to initial $30b. military aid package

JPost
The US and Israel are scheduled to sign a memorandum of understanding on Thursday outlining the $30 billion defense aid package Washington will provide Jerusalem over the next decade.

One wonders the motives and rationale behind selling certain Middle Eastern countries $US 20 Billion in advanced weaponry? Then to proceed to justify this massive weapon sale by assuring Israel that it will receive $US 30 Billion in weapons.

Just enough weapons to really kill each other, but with a bit of luck Israel should be able to survive.

Wouldn't it make more sense to not sell the weapons to the enemy in the first place? Or is greed the only motive behind the lastest arms deal.



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Friday, August 10, 2007

Palestinian Journalists Pressured to Lie About Deaths


Hamas: Subverting the truth
Camera Blog

In the print edition of Ha'aretz today, Avi Issacharoff reports on the death of two Arab children in Beit Lahiya, ages 8 and 6, hit by a Palestinian rocket that fell short. He wrote:
"No group claimed responsibility."
Palestinian journalists, however, were pressured to report that the children were killed by an Israeli bombardment.

Bagelblogger: Am I suprised? Not in the slightest. Not even in the midst of the sadness of two children dying does Hamas stop for one second from weaving their wicked lies.
Thanks to Snapshots

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Japanese Chutzpah?

Japan Says U.S. House Vote on Wartime Sex Slavery Regrettable

July 31 (Bloomberg)

Japan said it's regrettable the U.S. House of Representatives demanded the country officially apologize for its role in recruiting as many as 200,000 women into sexual slavery before and during World War II.

The House yesterday approved a resolution calling on Japan's Prime Mminister Shinzo Abe, to publicly apologize.

It's "regrettable," Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Shiozaki said at a regular press conference in Tokyo today.

Bagelblogger: I would have thought the forced prostitution and the consequences on the lives of thousands of women to be somewhat more 'regrettable'.


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Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Hamas Heroes: A Piece of Prose to Ponder

Hamas Heros

Beaman's World

I rarely chose to feature poetry on Mr Bagel News. The simple fact is this is a great bit of prose and its right on the mark.


Beeb!* Your bold reporter is free! --
Released, like the poor canary
From a dark cave of perdition
That is Gaza. Let’s all rejoice!

Laughter burns. Loud cheers smoke the air.
Politicians cry relief
Along with the Press. Saviours
Misunderstood -- thank you Hamas!

Haniyeh, the broker, the brave,
the honest man, freedom fighter,
A face with which the world can side
Against the fabled terrorists.

Let us forget the Hamas charter
Of hate, the killings, the rockets,
Their harsh Sharia, and Shalit
Who slowly dies while all applaud.

By Beaman

*Beeb = BBC

Make sure you check out the full article: Hamas Heroes

with thanks to Beaman's World

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Sunday, June 24, 2007

Hamas tactics: Fear, murder, and intimidation

Hamas tactics: Fear, murder, and intimidation

Meryl Yourish observes the ruthless manner Hamas has subdued the Gaza populations and draws a few conclusions.

This is the group that Jimmy Carter thinks we should negotiate with. Their tactics were apparently learned in the Saddam Hussein School of Government:

The near-perfect public order that reigned in Gaza this week can be attributed, at least in part, to the fear Hamas struck into residents’ hearts last week, during the Strip’s civil war. Testimony collected from the days of fighting indicates that Hamas imposed a methodical system of terror and scare tactics intended to deter, shock and frighten Fatah operatives and Gaza residents in general.


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Rashid Khalidi: Gaza blame-thrower


Gaza Blame thrower

If you haven't checked out Martin Kramer at Sandbox, then your missing out on some rather astute analysis. Despite having all the letters in the right spot, Kramer is willing to step outside the comfort zone. Kramer is able to see through the fog and get to the real gist of the matter. He reviews a recent interview of Rashid Khalidi,
"He's often cast as a courageous "new historian," particularly in reviews of his last book, The Iron Cage: The Story of the Palestinian Struggle for Statehood. Khalidi, in an interview about that book, claimed his purpose was to show that "the Palestinians had more agency than one version of Palestinian history would suggest--nothing was entirely inevitable."

Analysing Khalidi's posturing, Kramer's words aren't too kindly. It would seem in Kramer's eyes Khalid is rather a great pretender rather than contender.

Read Kramers thoughts here :
Rashid Khalidi: Gaza blame-thrower

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Gaza Chaos and Consequences


Hello is there any body there?


Gaza Chaos and Consequences

Solomonia has written a great piece on the situation in Gaza. It is worth the time to read it in its entirety. Make sure you check out the comments as well.
Mr Bagel

"Watching this video of a lynching of the Fatah thug in Gaza (you can go to the link and read -- the disturbing video has to be clicked on to play), I couldn't help but think about all those naive fools like Presbyterian Minister Arthur Suggs. Remember him? He's the guy who sat around having "the best day of his life" talking politics, sipping tea and swallowing up the fantasy stories of evil Israelis dragging Arabs around behind jeeps."

Click here to check out the rest of the article:
Gaza Chaos and Consequences


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Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Arab countries go into Anti Semitic Cartoon overdrive


Arab Nations React to Gaza War With Jew Hatred

Yid with Lid

The Arab media has been chock full of Anti-Semitic political cartoons. You see the Gaza war was all our (the Jooze) fault. And the reaction in the state owned Arab Muslim media is to show the most repulsive anti-Jewish Stereotypes. Please look at these cartoons twice. The first time look very quickly skip the words in between the cartoons. Try to figure out which ones came from a "moderate" Muslim country. See if you can tell a difference. Now look slowly, there is no difference between the supposedly "moderate" Arab countries and the supposedly radical ones.

Yid with lid takes us on a ride through the Arab waste land of hate. The recent Arab press has been saturated in Anti Israeli/ Anti Semitic cartoons. ADL has assembled some of them together and its quite mind boggling the connections and causes the Arab countries are trying to make between Israel and the current Hamas - Fatah crisis.



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Sunday, June 10, 2007

What if Israelis had abducted a BBC Journalist?

What if Israelis
had abducted
a BBC Journalist?



Watching the horrible video of Alan Johnston of the BBC
broadcasting Palestinian propaganda under orders from his
kidnappers, I found myself asking what it would have been
like had he been kidnapped by Israelis, and made to do the
same thing the other way round.

The first point is that it would never happen. There are no
Israeli organizations -- governmental or freelance -- that
would contemplate such a thing. That fact is itself
significant.

But just suppose that some fanatical Jews had grabbed Mr
Johnston and forced him to spout their message, abusing his
own country as he did so. What would the world have said?

There would have been none of the caution which has
characterized the response of the BBC and of the Government
since Mr Johnston was abducted on March 12. The Israeli
government would immediately have been condemned for its
readiness to harbor terrorists or its failure to track them
down.

Loud would have been the denunciations of the extremist
doctrines of Zionism which had given rise to this vile act.
The world isolation of Israel, if it failed to get Mr
Johnston freed, would have been complete.

If Mr Johnston had been forced to broadcast saying, for
example, that Israel was entitled to all the territories
held since the Six-Day War, and calling on the release of
all Israeli soldiers held by Arab powers in return for his
own release, his words would have been scorned. The cause of
Israel in the world would have been irreparably damaged by
thus torturing him on television. No one would have been shy
of saying so.

But of course in real life it is Arabs holding Mr Johnston,
and so everyone treads on tip-toe. Bridget Kendall of the
BBC opined that Mr Johnston had been "asked" to say what he
said in his video. Asked! If it were merely an "ask", why
did he not say no?

Throughout Mr Johnston's captivity, the BBC has continually
emphasized that he gave "a voice" to the Palestinian people,
the implication being that he supported their cause, and
should therefore be let out. One cannot imagine the
equivalent being said if he had been held by Israelis.

What Johnston says under duress is not all that different from
what the BBC says every day.


Well, he is certainly giving a voice to the Palestinian people now. And the truth is that, although it is under horrible duress, what he says is not all that different from what the BBC says every day through the mouths of reporters who are not kidnapped and threatened, but are merely collecting their wages.

The language is more lurid in the Johnston video, but the
narrative is essentially the same as we have heard over the
years from Orla Guerin and Jeremy Bowen and virtually the
whole pack of them.

It is that everything that is wrong in the Middle East and
the wider Muslim world is the result of aggression or
"heavy-handedness" (have you noticed how all actions by
American or Israeli troops are "heavy-handed", just as
surely as all racism is "unacceptable"?) by America or
Israel or Britain.

Alan Johnston, under terrorist orders, spoke of the
"absolute despair" of the Palestinians and attributed it to
40 years of Israeli occupation, "supported by the West".
That is how it is presented, night after night, by the BBC.

The other side is almost unexamined. There is little to
explain the internecine strife in the Arab world,
particularly in Gaza, or the cynical motivations of Arab
leaders for whom Palestinian miseries are politically
convenient.

You get precious little investigation of the networks and
mentalities of Islamist extremism -- the methods and money of
Hamas or Hizbollah and comparable groups -- which produce
acts of pure evil like that in which Mr Johnston is
involuntarily complicit.

The spotlight is not shone on how the "militants" (the BBC
does not even permit the word "terrorist" in the Middle East
context) and the warlords maintain their corruption and rule
of fear, persecuting, among others, the Palestinians.

Instead it shines pitilessly on Blair and Bush and on
Israel.

From the hellish to the ridiculous, the pattern is the same.
Back at home, the Universities and Colleges Union has just
voted for its members to "consider the moral implications of
existing and proposed links with Israeli academic
institutions".

Well, they could consider how work by scientists at the
Technion in Haifa has led to the production of the drug
Velcade, which treats multiple myeloma. Or they could look
at the professor at Ben-Gurion University who discovered a
bacteria that fights malaria and river blindness by killing
mosquitoes and black fly.

The main universities of Israel are, in fact, everything
that we in the West would recognize as proper universities.

Or they could study the co-operation between researchers at
the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who have isolated the
protein that triggers stress in order to try to treat
post-traumatic stress disorder, and their equivalents at the
Medical Research Council Laboratory of Molecular Biology in
Cambridge.

The main universities of Israel are, in fact, everything
that we in the West would recognize as proper universities.
They have intellectual freedom. They do not require an
ethnic or religious qualification for entry. They are not
controlled by the government. They have world-class
standards of research, often producing discoveries which
benefit all humanity. In all this, they are virtually unique
in the Middle East.

The silly dons are not alone. The National Union of
Journalists, of which I am proud never to have been a
member, has recently passed a comparable motion, brilliantly
singling out the only country in the region with a free
press for pariah treatment. Unison, which is a big, serious
union, is being pressed to support a boycott of Israeli
goods, products of the only country in the region with a
free trade union movement.

The doctrine is that Israel practices "apartheid" and that
it must therefore be boycotted.

All this is moral madness. It is not mad, of course, to
criticize Israeli policy. In some respects, indeed, it would
be mad not to. It is not mad -- though I think it is mistaken
to see the presence of Israel as the main reason for the
lack of peace in the region.

But it is mad or, perhaps one should rather say, bad to try
to raid Western culture's reserves of moral indignation and
expend them on a country that is part of that culture in
favor of surrounding countries that aren't. How can we have
got ourselves into a situation in which we half-excuse
turbaned torturers for kidnapping our fellow-citizens while
trying to exclude Jewish biochemists from lecturing to our
students?

Nobody yet knows the precise motivations of Mr Johnston's
captors, but it is surely not a coincidence that they held
him in silence until the 40th anniversary of the Six-Day War
approached, and only then made him speak. They wanted him to
give the world their historical explanation - Israeli
oppression - for their cause.

Yet that war took place because President Nasser of Egypt
led his country and his allies declaring "Our basic
aim will be to destroy Israel".

He failed, abjectly, and Egypt and Jordan later gave up the
aspiration. But many others maintain it to this day, now
with a pseudo-religious gloss added.

We keep giving sympathetic air-time to their death cult. In
a way, Mr Johnston is paying the price: his captors are high
on the oxygen of his corporation's publicity.

As for Israel, many sins can be laid to its charge. But it
is morally serious in a way that we are not, because it has
to be. Forty years after its greatest victory, it has to
work out each morning how it can survive.

Published in the Telegraph.co.uk

Bagelblogger: As so often is the case with Israel and the Arab world, not only is Israel judged in a far far harsher light, it seems that the world is all too often willing to accept the most disgraceful actions of some under the pretense of fighting for the rights of Palestinians.

The fool hardiness of it all, is it would do people well to remember not only the historical context of the Arab's nations desire to destroy Israel and commit unfathomable genocide, it is something we are reminded of on a continual basis, yet somehow chose to ignore it.

The civilized world needs to see past the lies and distortions of the Arab world and see the real aim of Palestinian terrorism, which is simply to destroy the Israel State. Gaining territorial concessions under the pretense of peace is simply a progression towards this ultimate aim.

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Sunday, June 3, 2007

British Union Boycotts of Israel:
One UK Blogger's perspective

A democratic nation is attacked constantly for decades over its very existence. The neighbours fire rockets, launch military offensives and deploy suicide bombers into civilian areas with the sole aim of killing as many civilians as possible. In these neighbour’s schools, the children are taught to racially hate a certain group, that that group’s obliteration is desirable and that martyrdom is a most noble action. Hate is cultivated along religious lines and seeps into every pore of the neighbour’s societies.

The democratic nation on the other hand, merely tries to live in peace, to defend itself against constant barrages and to constantly reach out into the dark for a hand of friendship and acceptance. When this democratic nation has to strike back it does but always with the aim of minimal civilian casualties on the opposing side. They even treat their enemies’ injured in their hospitals, not to mention the sick children who need life saving operations unrelated to war.

Now take two British Unions. The British National Union of Journalists (NUJ) and the British University and College Union’s (UCU). Union’s surely stick up for peace and fairness, don’t they?

A fascinating read: British Union Boycotts of Israel written by the blogger Beaman's World
Read more at Beaman's World

Source Credit: Thanks to Beaman's World

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Thursday, May 24, 2007

The Cost of Freedom?


Chaim from Freedoms Cost was interviewed a few nights back in a talk back segment, by Rabbi Yaakov Spivak in New York on 'Talkline' [620 on the am dial]. The discussion was loosely based on Chaim's experiences being in Jerusalem at the Kotel the week of Unification in 1967. [Shavuot 1967]

Chaim makes no apoligies for being Pro Israel, and it would seem he attracted a few apologists who would like to make a lot of apologies. It was a very heated debate, and provides some insight into just how controversial this 'theme' is in some New York house holds. Its an hour show, its about 12.8 mb download but I throughly recommend it.

Reference: Intense Radio

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Wednesday, May 23, 2007

US Ambassador Richard Jones:
US was merciful to Pollard by
not executing him


Mr Bagel has managed to get the video of Richard Jones stating that the US was merciful to Pollard by not executing him.

There's a lot that has been written of this in the press in the last few days, but there seems to have been one point all the Press has missed.

Some of the Israeli media have conjectured that Richard Jones reactions and statements show a clear bias against Israel and may even verge on being 'anti Semitic'.

Well I'd like to bring your attention to one major point missed by most of the media.

If you watch this video you will see exactly what Richard Jones thinks of Israel.


If the video doesn't play click this link:
US Ambassador: US was merciful to Pollard not executing him


The Ambassador in this video apart for some blatant lies, clearly states:
"I really think that it has to do with the basic fact that this person committed treason against his own country.
I know he was helping a friend, but that's what makes it even more emotional for Americans;
that a friend would cooperate in aiding and abetting someone who is committing treason against his own country"

Its not enough that this slime ball attacks Jonathon pollard, in a way Pollard is unable to come to his own defense, but what is of even more of a gigantic deal of chutzpah is that he has the Gaul to to attack Israel for 'co -operating in aiding and abetting someone who is committing treason'.

Let's put this in historical perspective. Israel had a signed agreement with the Americans to share high level intelligence with each other.

Pollards passing of information clearly showed that America was reneging on this agreement.

Not that that is ever something unusual for America, but it was metering out its intelligence as it saw fit, suiting its own agenda in the Middle East, it wasn't sharing intelligence in a way that a partner would.

If there was any betrayal it was with the American intelligence agencies reticence in sharing what was critically information regarding Nuclear armaments status and strategic readiness for military confrontation.

The Chutzpah of this S.O.B is astounding.

This sad and sorry affair is beyond comprehension. Pollard has served 22 years, he has expressed remorse countless times, this man's life wastes away in Jail because politicians want to play football with his life.

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Thursday, May 17, 2007

If I forget thee… A very personal recollection

If I forget thee...
Chaim from Freedom's Choice has had a rather moving post of his featured on JPost.

He wrote it back in 2006 to celebrate Jerusalem Day.

Its definitely
worth the read.

The JPost essay is here: If I forget thee…
A very personal recollection



The original post: If I forget thee… A very personal recollection

For more background on Jerusalem day:
The Knesset: Jerusalem Day - A Historical Introduction

Picture Credit: Knesset.gov

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Thursday, May 3, 2007

Time to Put Shimon Peres Out to Pasture ! [Yid with Lid]


I had to laugh with Yid With Lid's analysis on the goings on now that the rats are leaving the sinking ship captained by Captain Olmert Omelette.

Check it out its a good laugh.

Time to Put Shimon Peres Out to Pasture !


Picture Credit: Cartoon of Shimon Peres, Oleg

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Wednesday, May 2, 2007

Aussie Dave Confronts the spin on the Mufti of Mayhem: Sheik Hilaly


Aussie Dave reports on the spin the Australian Newspaper The Sydney Morning Herald, is putting on the Mufti of Mayhem Sheik Hilaly

From S.M.H
...Generally reviled in Jewish circles for his comments on Israel and the Holocaust, Hilaly says he is now prepared to take a more conciliatory line. "What our Jewish brothers and sisters in Australia and the world over need to know is that I respect Judaism as a faith and I would not be a Muslim unless I believed in and respected the prophet Moses, peace be upon him. As an Arab, I am a Semite one hundred per cent."

But he still treads a fine line that many may continue to see as racist. "I condemn and deplore the Holocaust and all the massacres that the Jews faced at the hands of the Nazis," Hilaly says. "However, I, like many researchers in the world, shy off the number of innocent victims that had been estimated at 6 million. I, along with many rational Jews, reject the Zionist ideology that is based on racism and looking down on those who are not Zionist."


Bagelblogger: As an Australian I consider this person to be close to the highest National security threat we currently have.

Make sure you check out Aussie Dave's wrap up at IsraellyCool

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Monday, April 23, 2007

Mass Rabbinic Arrest at UN

This is a must read article.
Last week whilst you were going about your daily business 22 Rabbis and rabbinical students were arrested in front of the UN.

Seems the Media doesn't care about peaceful Jews protesting. It only matters when they're Imam's deliberately acting in a suspicous manner to make a self serving scene.
Read it Here: MASS RABBINIC ARREST
Post and Picture credit:
The Hall of the Goblin King

Correction 22 people arrested not 50 thanks THoGK.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Breaking News: Direct Source for News on University Shooting

Seems the best source for the latest news is actually
Virginia Tech's Campus News.
Find them Here: Collegiate Times


Monday, April 16th 2007 8:19PM

Police update press on shootings

Virginia Tech police chief Wendell Flinchum said that there has been a preliminary identification of the shooter in the incident that took place in Norris Hall but would not definitively state whether the shooter was the same as the one that left two dead in West Ambler Johnston Hall. Flinchum back-tracked from his statement that the description Ambler Johnson Hall shooter did not match the description of the Norris Hall shooter, leaving it unclear as to whether police were actively pursuing a second suspect in the case.

Flinchum said that police were pursuing an additional "person of interest" but would give a description.

Two weapons were recovered, but police were not prepared to release their make or model, Flinchum said.

BB: Its Hard to believe some one could be filled with so much hate.

References:

Article From Collegiate Times
Joe Kendall, CT Managing Editor
Bagelblogger
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